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	<title>Comments on: Social Marketing and Social Media Marketing, Continued&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: kdaniel20816</title>
		<link>http://www.pandemiclabs.com/blog/social-media/social-marketing-and-social-media-marketing-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-7374</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Matt, for getting me to think about new concepts.  You almost had me convinced that we should switch to using the term “social marketing” to cover conversation-based marketing.  I agree that the other adjectives used to describe marketing (e.g., direct marketing, e-mail marketing, even TV advertising) are about the distribution strategy.  

You note that people are beginning to use the term &quot;social marketing&quot; to mean &quot;marketing using social methods, which would encompass everything from street teams to viral marketing…anything where interaction, conversation, and other social elements are at work.&quot;  Then, I think you said you prefer to define &quot;social marketing&quot; as &quot;conversation-based marketing&quot; ... which seems to come full circle back to your point that &quot;social marketing&quot; is being used more and more to mean &quot;anything where interaction, conversation, and other social elements are at work&quot; (e.g., in-person conversations that happen during &quot;event marketing&quot;).  

To me, it seems that the people who have coined the term &quot;social media marketing&quot; may know what they&#039;re talking about ... it best describes the distribution strategy and it can be used to promote products as well as causes.  That still leaves room for a broader category of &quot;social marketing&quot; (under which “social media marketing” would be one distribution strategy), but the confusion between the terms will inevitably get worse as younger people move into the field.  

I&#039;ll be sad to see the term &quot;social marketing&quot; go the way of the dodo bird, but it may be a good thing, because to many people (including my former boss, who didn&#039;t want us to use the term social marketing) it carries the negative connotation of social engineering (manipulation). 

I agree, none of us have any control over how these terms evolve, no matter how many people we “correct.”  It will be interesting to see how the definitions of these terms change over the years in Wikipedia, Webster’s, etc.

Thanks again for getting me to think about new ideas.

Kathy Daniel
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Office of Planning, Environment, and Realty
Federal Highway Administration
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Matt, for getting me to think about new concepts.  You almost had me convinced that we should switch to using the term “social marketing” to cover conversation-based marketing.  I agree that the other adjectives used to describe marketing (e.g., direct marketing, e-mail marketing, even TV advertising) are about the distribution strategy.  </p>
<p>You note that people are beginning to use the term &#8220;social marketing&#8221; to mean &#8220;marketing using social methods, which would encompass everything from street teams to viral marketing…anything where interaction, conversation, and other social elements are at work.&#8221;  Then, I think you said you prefer to define &#8220;social marketing&#8221; as &#8220;conversation-based marketing&#8221; &#8230; which seems to come full circle back to your point that &#8220;social marketing&#8221; is being used more and more to mean &#8220;anything where interaction, conversation, and other social elements are at work&#8221; (e.g., in-person conversations that happen during &#8220;event marketing&#8221;).  </p>
<p>To me, it seems that the people who have coined the term &#8220;social media marketing&#8221; may know what they&#8217;re talking about &#8230; it best describes the distribution strategy and it can be used to promote products as well as causes.  That still leaves room for a broader category of &#8220;social marketing&#8221; (under which “social media marketing” would be one distribution strategy), but the confusion between the terms will inevitably get worse as younger people move into the field.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sad to see the term &#8220;social marketing&#8221; go the way of the dodo bird, but it may be a good thing, because to many people (including my former boss, who didn&#8217;t want us to use the term social marketing) it carries the negative connotation of social engineering (manipulation). </p>
<p>I agree, none of us have any control over how these terms evolve, no matter how many people we “correct.”  It will be interesting to see how the definitions of these terms change over the years in Wikipedia, Webster’s, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks again for getting me to think about new ideas.</p>
<p>Kathy Daniel<br />
Air Quality Specialist<br />
Office of Planning, Environment, and Realty<br />
Federal Highway Administration<br />
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE (HEPN-10)<br />
Washington, DC  20590<br />
202-366-6276<br />
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		<title>By: website optimization</title>
		<link>http://www.pandemiclabs.com/blog/social-media/social-marketing-and-social-media-marketing-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-7337</link>
		<dc:creator>website optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikekujawski</title>
		<link>http://www.pandemiclabs.com/blog/social-media/social-marketing-and-social-media-marketing-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-6841</link>
		<dc:creator>mikekujawski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good clarification Mathew! I wouldn&#039;t take any of the comments personally, some people are just very close to the field of social marketing and see it as their duty to protect the &quot;brand&quot; and to strengthen the respected field they worked so hard to create. You raised some good points on the issue of taxonomy and labeling. When somebody asks me what I do, I rarely give my title, instead I describe what I do. Titles mean nothing to me anymore. It will be interesting to see how all these terms evolve...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good clarification Mathew! I wouldn&#8217;t take any of the comments personally, some people are just very close to the field of social marketing and see it as their duty to protect the &#8220;brand&#8221; and to strengthen the respected field they worked so hard to create. You raised some good points on the issue of taxonomy and labeling. When somebody asks me what I do, I rarely give my title, instead I describe what I do. Titles mean nothing to me anymore. It will be interesting to see how all these terms evolve&#8230;</p>
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